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Static Zooming

Last post 07-15-2008 10:16 PM by Ardi. 4 replies.
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  • 06-02-2008 10:44 PM

    • Ardi
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    Static Zooming

    I'm not sure if this is the right place for such a question, but it has been bothering me for quite some time and though I have looked multiple places, it seems no one else is bothered by this or has this problem.

    Version: Painter 8/Painter X
    OS: Windows 2000

    While I work on my drawings I like to zoom out to get a better idea of color and composition. In Painter 8 (And painter X when I was using the trial) there is a 'static' zoom. 100% zoom has perfect clarity, but anything above or below appears 'static' and my image is distorted. I have to constistantly open my image in photoshop in order to see a clear view. Thin lines and small details are particularly disturbed by this static.

    Here is an image of what I mean:


    (50% zoom)

    Photoshop and my other art programs zoom out very clearly. Is this something normal in painter or do I have a problem?

    Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

  • 06-10-2008 2:48 PM In reply to

    • Day
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    Re: Static Zooming

    Edit > Preferences > General

    Check "Draw zoomed-out views using area-averaging"

    If there is still some anti-alias problem (in particular with black), just reopen your canva.
  • 06-10-2008 4:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: Static Zooming

    Day- thank you for your help, but I'm afraid it was already at this setting by default. I tried clicking it on and off and closing/reopening the file, but I still have this problem. Does anyone else experience static zooming?
  • 07-15-2008 12:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Static Zooming

    Hello Ardi!

    I am using Painter 8 and I have this problem. The "draw zoomed-out views using area-averaging" setting does not seem to make any difference whatsoever. Zoom levels other than 100% have terrible aliasing artefacts. It looks really bad when you have a repeating pattern, like a canvas texture. This really gets on my nerves. I have to open the file in Photoshop to see what it looks like zoomed out. I should be able to do this in Painter, but it looks so aliased that I can't get a good idea of what my image looks like overall.

     What kind of hardware setup do you have? I am running it on a P4 Toshiba laptop with 2GB RAM, and a crappy NVIDIA GeFroce FX Go5200 graphics chipset. I wonder if the video hardware is the problem for me. But Photoshop anti-aliases the zoomed-out views just fine on my hardware setup!

     I'll show you how bad it looks. Here is the Painter display of the image at 25% zoom:

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    And here is a detail to show how it looks at 100% zoom, so you can see how the artefacts, especially the patterning, are showing up as moiré interference between the pixel frequency and the canvas texture pattern frequency:

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This is irritating! I would kill for a solution to this problem that doesn't require buying a new computer!

  • 07-15-2008 10:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: Static Zooming

    meme.trader - I've been looking around a lot more since I posted this and realized that a great deal of people experience this and it seems to be the norm with Painter 8. Some people are very bothered by it (such as myself) while others do not seem to mind. I do not think it has anything to do with your computer or computer hardware. It may be unfortunate, but appears that we must simply accept this kind of zooming in Painter 8. Luckily most files (except those that use the watercolor feature) are easy enough to view in photoshop.
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