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Watercolor Wet-on-wet

Last post 07-24-2008 2:47 AM by Jinny Brown. 5 replies.
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  • 07-20-2008 12:11 AM

    • ednah
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    Watercolor Wet-on-wet

    I have been playing around with Painter X a bit and have been having fun looking at the results of various brushes. Thinking back to traditional art, with watercolors, I find that at times I would want to do a light wash of just purely water and then dab watercolors on top so that the colors spread out and bleed. In both Watercolor brushes and Digital Watercolor Brushes, I find that while I am able to water-out colors after I apply them (eg. with Digital Watercolor, watering out with Gentle Wet Eraser), but can't do say, a Pure Water Bristle or Brush and then apply watercolor resulting in a watered-out color diffusing wherever there water was painted before.

    I know I can adjust the wetness of brushes painting in the water settings for watercolor, but I would like to know if doing wet-on-wet is possible.

    Thanks!

    Ednah

    Painter X
    Wacom Cintiq 20WSX
  • 07-20-2008 4:14 AM In reply to

    • TonyS
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    Re: Watercolor Wet-on-wet

    Good question,

    My first love is watercolour and I struggle with Painter is this area. I often use a base wash in real watercolour (applying paint into wet paper), but can't seem to get painter to perform in the same way. I have started to experiment with Painter and WC ( see...http://www.tonyswaby.com/index.php/Latest/Vicars-tea-party.html) I 'm moderatly happy with the result, but it's not like painting in real watercolour. No happy accidents etc..:)

     

     

    Tony 

     

     

  • 07-20-2008 9:19 AM In reply to

    Re: Watercolor Wet-on-wet

    Hi ednah and Tony,

    It's good to see some newcomers to The PainterFactory discussing Painter. Welcome!

    While Painter's Digital Watercolor ("DWC") and Watercolor ("WC")  brush technology is quite advanced, there are still things we'd like to see added, such as what you've mentioned.

    There's a lot we can do, but it takes some experimentation and practice to learn how to control both DWC and WC brush categories.

    Maybe these two John Derry Visual Guides for Digital Watercolor and Watercolor will help:

    Painter 8 Tutorials

    Since they were written for Painter 8, you'll notice spelling of the brush category names is different from what's used now (Digital Water Color vs. today's Digital Watercolor and Water Color vs. today's Watercolor).

    A more important difference is a great improvement in Digital Watercolor since Painter 8 introduced that brush category. In Painter 8, wet DWC paint was automatically dried when the file was saved, closed, and opened again, whether or not the artist wanted it dried and even when the file was saved in Painter's native RIFF format.

    That problem was fixed in Painter IX and now we can save a Digital Watercolor painting in RIFF format, close it, then open it again in Painter and continue, with the Digital Watercolor paint still wet until we decide to dry it.

    When reading John Derry's Visual Guide for Digital Watercolor, you'll see that he mentions the drying of wet Digital Watercolor paint when the file is saved. Don't let that worry you. Since you're using a more current Painter version, it shouldn't be a problem as long as you save in RIFF format to retain all Painter-specific information. In this case, that would be the invisible Wet Layer, the ability to edit existing DWC brush strokes with DWC brush variants, and the expected look of wet DWC brush strokes.

     


     

  • 07-20-2008 10:10 AM In reply to

    • squirrel
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    Re: Watercolor Wet-on-wet

    Hi ednah and tony and welcome to the forum. I hope you will enjoy exploring this programme as much as I do and I look forward to seeing some of your work.

    Like you I love the transluscency of water colour and the way accidental mixing of colour on the page can be a very happy accident. I know that I am finding the digital watercolour to be more expressive than I first though, and became very excited about finding the wet fringe effect which I also like to see. I would still like to see the sort of thing you are asking about but in the meantime I am pushing my own boundries, (even if not the programmes) and discovering something new all the time

     

  • 07-23-2008 1:49 AM In reply to

    • ednah
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    Re: Watercolor Wet-on-wet

    Thanks jinny! Those tutorial guides were really helpful.

    I am having so much fun with all these brushes in Painter!

    Ednah

    Painter X
    Wacom Cintiq 20WSX
  • 07-24-2008 2:47 AM In reply to

    Re: Watercolor Wet-on-wet

    You're most welcome, ednah.

    It's great to hear you're having fun. Most of us do, and we always enjoy seeing a newcomer to Painter enjoying it as much as we have.

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