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  • 08-01-2008 4:31 AM

    • Maureen
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    Looks

     I'm suddenly experiencing a problem with Looks........ (lol, I don't mean mine literally!!)

     When I choose a Look,  a dialogue box pops up stating:  The preffered Pattern, "Floral Fabrick" could not be found.  You may choose another Pattern and continue the script, or you may choose to stop the script.  Then there's the two bars -  Stop Script or Continue Script.

    Firstly I'm trying to use a look, not a pattern.  I've restored to default, even my workspace and the dreaded restore Painter to it's default settings all to no avail.

    Can someone shed a light on what maybe happening here.  Seems my Painter X.1 has gone a little haywire.

     Forgot to add:

    Painter X.1

    I have Win.Xp  Pro.SP2

    Looks 

    Maureen

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  • 08-01-2008 2:49 PM In reply to

    • ednah
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    Re: Looks

    I have been having the same problem; in additon, I can't seem to apply the Weaves either. A quick question -- is the F-X > Gradient Flat Brush 20 suppose to paint the gradient selected? If so, I am not able to do so, but am able to paint the gradient with the Gradient String brush. . . am rather confused -- I was able to use both Looks and Weaves when I first installed Painter X but now am not. I look forward to seeing how this problem is resolved, but in the mean time, I'll go dab a bit at some other brushes while waiting. =)

    Ednah

    "I know quite certainly that I myself have no special talent; curiosity, obsession and dogged endurance, combined with self-criticism have brought me to my ideas." -- Albert Einstein; quoted in Jeremy Sutton's Painter X Creativity
  • 08-01-2008 5:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: Looks

     I'm sorry you are having similar problems, but for me, glad I'm not alone.  I uninstalled/reinstalled Painter last night, but it's made no difference.

    I can get the weaves to work okay, I use the bucket fill for that.... but not one Look will function!

    Maureen

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    but by the moments that take our breath away.

  • 08-01-2008 9:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Looks

    Maureen and ednah,

    I'll try go provide some help as soon as possible, after I finish something that has to be done first.

    In the meantime, hopefully someone else can jump in and provide some answers.

     

    Jinny

     

     

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  • 08-02-2008 7:03 AM In reply to

    Re: Looks

    Maureen,

    I'll answer your post first, with responses inserted below, then a tutorial and workaround instructions that should help you use Brush Looks installed with Painter X.

    Maureen:

    I'm suddenly experiencing a problem with Looks........ (lol, I don't mean mine literally!!)

    When I choose a Look,  a dialogue box pops up stating:  The preffered Pattern, "Floral Fabrick" could not be found.  You may choose another Pattern and continue the script, or you may choose to stop the script.  Then there's the two bars -  Stop Script or Continue Script.

    Firstly I'm trying to use a look, not a pattern.  I've restored to default, even my workspace and the dreaded restore Painter to it's default settings all to no avail.

    As the dialog (or message) indicates, Brush Looks are controlled by scripts. These scripts tell Painter which art materials to use in order to make the Brush Look, "look" as intended when you paint with it. Scripts look for libraries that were loaded when the script was recorded and the same is true when a Brush Look is created and saved. That's why, as in your example above, the script looked for the Pattern, Floral Fabric. So, you see, though you weren't aware of it, you actually were trying to use a Pattern since it was needed to run the script for the Brush Look you wanted to paint with.


    Can someone shed a light on what maybe happening here.  Seems my Painter X.1 has gone a little haywire.

     Forgot to add:

    Painter X.1

    I have Win.Xp  Pro.SP2

    Looks 

     

    Your Painter X.1 hasn't gone completely haywire though it seems the Brush Look scripts are a little buggy and we need to apply a workaround which I'll explain below, but first.....

    It seems all of the Brush Looks in the Looks Selector installed with Painter X depend on the default Painter X art materials libraries being loaded (libraries present when the program was installed and launched the first time, or until you loaded other art materials libraries).

    NOTE: You'll be loading the default art materials libraries from the Corel Painter X application/program folder's Resources folder, located here:

    Mac - Applications > Corel Painter X > Resources

    Windows
    - Program Files > Corel > Corel Painter X > Resources

    Read each set of instructions carefully as they vary just a little.

     

    To load the default Painter X Gradients library:

    1. In the Gradients palette menu, choose Open Library.

    2. Navigate to the Corel Painter X > Resources folder (see path above).

    3. Highlight the file named Painter Gradients.gradients, then click the Open button.


    To load the default Painter X Patterns library:

    1. In the Patterns palette menu, choose Open Library.

    2. Navigate to the Corel Painter X > Resources folder (see path above), then open the Painter Patterns folder.

    3. Highlight the file named Painter Patterns.patterns, then click the Open button.


    To load the default Painter X Papers library:

    1. In the Papers palette menu, choose Open Library, and click the Load button.

    2. Navigate to the Corel Painter X > Resources folder (see path above).

    3. Highlight the file named Painter Papers.papers, then click the Open button.


    To load the default Painter X Weaves library:

    1. In the Weaves palette menu, choose Open Library.

    2. Navigate to the Corel Painter X > Resources folder (see path above).

    3. Highlight the file named Painter Weaves.weaves, then click the Open button.


    To load the default Painter X Nozzles library:

    1. In the Nozzles Selector menu, choose Open Library.

    2. Navigate to the Corel Painter X > Resources folder (see path above), then open the Painter Nozzles folder.

    4. Highlight the file named Painter Nozzles.nozzles, then click the Open button.


    Now, with all of these art materials libraries loaded the Brush Look scripts should be able to find the appropriate art materials but, at least in my experience using Painter X.1 in WinXP Home SP2 with all of the default Painter X art materials libraries loaded, the Brush Look scripts don't find them even it the appropriate art materials are already selected.

    The Workaround:

    1. First, be sure all of your art materials libraries are open on the Painter screen, ready for you to use.

    2. Open the Look Selector and choose a Brush Look.

    3. If a message appears saying a Pattern can't be found, take note of that Pattern name and, while that message remains open, go to the Patterns palette and choose that Pattern (even if you know it's already selected, just select it again), then click the Continue button.

    4. If another message appears saying a Nozzle can't be found, take note of the Nozzle name and, while that window remains open, go to the Nozzle Selector and choose the appropriate Nozzle (even if you know it's already selected, just select it again), then click the Continue button.

    5. Depending on the Brush Look you select, the message may say some other art material item cannot be found. For instance, a Paper, Gradient, or Weave. In that case, go to the appropriate art materials palette and select the appropriate item.

     

    Maureen and ednah,

    I tested all of the Brush Looks installed with Painter X and the method described above worked for me. Please try it and let me know if it works for you as well.

  • 08-02-2008 7:38 AM In reply to

    Re: Looks

    ednah:

    I have been having the same problem; in additon, I can't seem to apply the Weaves either.

    If you mean by "apply the Weaves" that the Brush Look script says it can't find a Weave, the instructions I supplied in my last post should help. Let me know if you mean something else.


    A quick question -- is the F-X > Gradient Flat Brush 20 suppose to paint the gradient selected? If so, I am not able to do so, but am able to paint the gradient with the Gradient String brush. . . am rather confused -- I was able to use both Looks and Weaves when I first installed Painter X but now am not. I look forward to seeing how this problem is resolved, but in the mean time, I'll go dab a bit at some other brushes while waiting. =)

     

    The F/X Gradient Flat Brush 20 variant paints color based on the colors you see at the bottom left corner of the Colors palette: Main Color (front square) and Additional Color (rear square). In combination with the Main Color and Additional Color, color is expressed in the brush stroke based on the currently selected option in the Color Expression palette.

    When the Gradient Flat Brush 20 variant is in its default state, the Color Expression option is Pressure, but if you try the other options, you'll notice color is expressed differently. Some options will show color expression differences more clearly than others.

    For instance, choose red as your Main Color and Green as your Additional Color, then in the Color Expression palette, choose Direction.

    Now paint a horizontal stroke and you'll see the Main Color is used. Paint a vertical stroke and you'll see the Additional Color is used. Paint a diagonal stroke and you'll see both colors are used. Now paint a circle and you'll see the entire range of ways the two colors are used. 

  • 08-02-2008 4:17 PM In reply to

    • ednah
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    Re: Looks

    Hooray for restored Looks! Many thanks, Jinny! Your explanation on the FX brushes made sense and I see how it works now.

    Ednah

    "I know quite certainly that I myself have no special talent; curiosity, obsession and dogged endurance, combined with self-criticism have brought me to my ideas." -- Albert Einstein; quoted in Jeremy Sutton's Painter X Creativity
  • 08-02-2008 6:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: Looks

    Jinny Brown:

    The Workaround:

    1. First, be sure all of your art materials libraries are open on the Painter screen, ready for you to use.

    2. Open the Look Selector and choose a Brush Look.

    3. If a message appears saying a Pattern can't be found, take note of that Pattern name and, while that message remains open, go to the Patterns palette and choose that Pattern (even if you know it's already selected, just select it again), then click the Continue button.

    4. If another message appears saying a Nozzle can't be found, take note of the Nozzle name and, while that window remains open, go to the Nozzle Selector and choose the appropriate Nozzle (even if you know it's already selected, just select it again), then click the Continue button.

    5. Depending on the Brush Look you select, the message may say some other art material item cannot be found. For instance, a Paper, Gradient, or Weave. In that case, go to the appropriate art materials palette and select the appropriate item.

     

     

    Hi Jinny,

    Many thanks for all this information, it is so much appreciated.

    Okay, here's how I faired.  I reloaded all the libraries as per your instructions.

    I opened the the various library palettes onto my desktop/window..... I click on a Look and a dialogue box opens Cannot Find Script.... this is where it's becoming tedious!

    I'm going round and round in circles.....it doesn't stop requesting and after a short while the dialogue box freezes blank and all I see is the bar Continue Script.  I click the Continue Script and it starts all over again, requesting nozzles, looks, grads, patterns... I'm spending an awful lot of time going through each dialogue box to get to an end result.  In the end, the Look I wanted shows, but this is an awfully long way of achieving something that did not occur previously. Is this how I'll have to use Painter from now on?  If so, I'm not terribly happy about it.  

    I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling, however I did not remove my user files.  I'm wondering if a complete, clean uninstall/reinstall would solve this problem.

    I'm a few steps further, thanks to you, but it's still not working correctly.

     

    Maureen

    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take,
    but by the moments that take our breath away.

  • 08-03-2008 2:05 AM In reply to

    Re: Looks

    Hi Maureen,

    I completely agree it's tedious using Brush Looks that require this workaround.

    However, as mentioned in my previous post, I believe the Brush Looks scripts are buggy and it's going to require the Corel Painter developers involvement to get that fixed. 

    To that end, I've sent an e-mail to the Painter development team at painterteam@corel.com with a link to this post so they can read the details in full.

    I seriously doubt that anythng we do will fix this problem, so unless you have another good reason to Uninstall and reinstall Painter X, I'd just skip it and work with the program as it is, applying all of the other usual methods to keep Painter and your system running smoothly.

    Check these two threads at the Conceptart.org Painter forum to learn how to keep Painter running smoothly and how to speed up your Painter brushes:

    Keeping Painter 6 Through Painter X.1 Running Smoothly - Updated February 6, 2008, by Jinny Brown

    Hot-rodding Your Brushes in Corel Painter, by John Derry

    By the way, you might want to try creating your own Brush Looks to see if they work better than the ones installed with the program.

    To learn how to save a Brush Look, read the following:

    Painter X Help > Help Topics > Contents tab > Customizing Brushes

    Click the plus sign to the left of Customizing Brushes, then click Managing Custom Brushes.

    On the right panel, near the top, click the link named Saving a Look, then read everything below that heading down to the bottom of the page.

     

     

     

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  • 08-03-2008 3:23 AM In reply to

    Re: Looks

    Hi again,

    Just remembered, I posted a demo in the Sandbox forum a while back showing how one of my custom Brush Looks paints:

    Did You Ever Use A Brush Look?, Save Your Own Brush Look?

    It was very easy to create, and it worked!

     

    Have fun!

      

  • 08-03-2008 7:24 AM In reply to

    • Maureen
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    Re: Looks

     Hello again Jinny, and thanks for the help with this problem. 

    I did uninstall/reinstall Painter, but didn't do all the User files, in other words, it wasn't a complete uninstall/reinstall.

    I can give the Looks a miss for the time being, in fact I rarely use them, I just couldn't understand why I had this problem all of a sudden.

     I've made a note of all the links and will check them out, including the one off Pixel Alley about creating Looks.  I may create a couple and see if they work.

    One thing I was thinking of, the repair you gave me above, reloading the Looks, gradients, etc etc from the Painter folder, would it not be better if I loaded them directly off the CD?... that thought just came to me a few minutes ago.

    Again, I appreciate your time in helping me.

    Maureen

    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take,
    but by the moments that take our breath away.

  • 08-03-2008 7:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Looks

    The link to info about Brush Looks isn't at PixelAlley. It's in the Sandbox forum here at The PainterFactory.

    You won't find the default Painter X Painter Brushes brush library and default art materials libraries on the Painter X CD, available to load into Painter X. All you'll find there are Extras, not installed with the program. Libraries installed with Painter X are only available directly from the CD via the installation or reinstallation of Painter X.

    Since it's an unnecessary and time consuming thing to reinstall just to get the default art materials libraries loaded, or causes loss of custom items if we hold down the Shift key while launching just to get the default art materials libraries loaded, I've shown you where to find them so you can load all or individual art materials libraries... and, of course, the default Painter X Painter Brushes library without going through all that.

    The default Painter Brushes brush library is located in the Painter X application/program folder's Brushes folder.

    If you don't mind working in the Default Workspace, unless you've changed things there, you'll also find the default libraries in that Workspace.

    So, you see, there are several methods to choose from.

     

     

     

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