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Last post 07-21-2009 8:02 PM by sirok. 7 replies.
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  • 07-02-2009 2:49 AM

    problems loading brush librarys

    hi so far  i've looked around and not gotten an easy answer to this problem.  I have downloaded version of painter 11 upgrade, and I downloaded the optional content.  no problems loading the papers/textures and other files.. but I can't seem to be able to load/import any of the brush libraries.  i put all of them inside the bruses folder in the painter 11 directory, in  a directory I called  custom brushes, when I goto import brush library and navigate to the folders for the brushes it shows a file selector looking for  a file with the  ending  .brs    there are no such files in any of my brush directories..    in fact many of them seem to be xml files.    

    any help appreciated.   

     

    cheers

     

    dale c 

  • 07-02-2009 4:27 AM In reply to

    • JoeC
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    Re: problems loading brush librarys

    Choose "Load Brush Library" instead of "Import...". The .brs file extension is for libraries created in Painter 6 or earlier. See Painter Help/Importing>Brush Libraries

  • 07-02-2009 5:11 AM In reply to

    Re: problems loading brush librarys

    dconnors:

    hi so far  i've looked around and not gotten an easy answer to this problem.  I have downloaded version of painter 11 upgrade, and I downloaded the optional content.  no problems loading the papers/textures and other files.. but I can't seem to be able to load/import any of the brush libraries.  i put all of them inside the bruses folder in the painter 11 directory, in  a directory I called  custom brushes, when I goto import brush library and navigate to the folders for the brushes it shows a file selector looking for  a file with the  ending  .brs    there are no such files in any of my brush directories..    in fact many of them seem to be xml files.    

    any help appreciated.   

     

    cheers

     

    dale c 

    Hi Dale,

    I'll try to clarify a couple of things to make it easy for you to install, then load, the Extra brush libraries downloaded from the Corel site.

    First:

    The term Load is the one you want to use, not Import.

    The Brush Selector menu's Import Brush Library command (or the Import button at the bottom of the Brush Libraries dialog box)  is used in relation to Painter 6 and earlier version single-file .BRS brush libraries. Those older version brush libraries need to be converted by whichever version is being used, Painter 7 through Painter 11, from the single .BRS brush library file, to folders and XML brush variant files then placed in the correct locations so Painter 7 through Painter 11 can find them when we use the Brush Selector menu's Load Brush Library command.

    Brush libraries in the Painter 11 Brushes.zip file download are already set up in a folder and XML file structure as they were created for Painter versions more recent than Painter 6 or have already been converted by Corel. In other words, they're ready to be installed, loaded, and used in Painter 11.

    Second:

    Extract the Painter_11_Brushes.zip file and you'll see a folder named Brushes.

    Open that Brushes folder and you'll see 20 folders, each of which is a brush library folder.

    When you placed those brush library folders inside another folder named Custom Brushes, then placed your Custom Brushes folder inside the Painter 11 application/program folder's Brushes folder, you made it impossible for Painter 11 to find them.

    To make it possible for Painter 11 to find them, the 20 brush library folders must be placed directly inside either the:

    •  
      • Painter 11 application/program folder's Brushes folder, or the
      • Painter 11 User folder's > [Workspace Name] > Brushes folder.

    It's fine to put other Extras like art materials libraries into a "Custom" folder anywhere on your computer because we can browse for them when we want to load one of those libraries.

    However, with brush libraries, Painter is programmed to look in specific locations so we have to cooperate with that plan if we want to be able to load the Extra brush libraries and use them in Painter 11.

     

    Jinny

     

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  • 07-02-2009 6:59 PM In reply to

    Re: problems loading brush librarys

    hmm weirdness. I put those folders  directly inside the brushes  directory

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Corel\Corel Painter 11\Brushes\Painter Brushes                              with all my other brushes... including a set I had previously installed   from a dvd  from jeremy sutton  called jeremy's faves.. they are all nestled together in the same directory and painter still doesn't see them  I tried  going to the brushes  load menu.. it just shows one selection..  Painter brushes 

    and I loaded it and still no more brushes..  its definitely the full set  I downloaded from the corel site. 

    maybe  I'm destined to never use the splatter brush set. ?

     

     

     

  • 07-03-2009 12:38 AM In reply to

    Re: problems loading brush librarys

    dconnors:

    hmm weirdness. I put those folders  directly inside the brushes  directory

    Nope, you didn't put the Extra brush library folders directly inside the Brushes folder. Look carefully at the path  you typed:

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Corel\Corel Painter 11\Brushes\Painter Brushes

    Based on the path you typed, as you can see highlighted in bold red text above, you put the Extra brush library folders inside the default Painter 11 Painter Brushes brush library folder. I've highlighted in bold green text the Brushes folder where (see instructions in my previous post above) the Extra brush library folders must be placed to make it possible for Painter 11 to find them.

    Painter 11 can't find your Extra brush library folders because you put them inside another brush library. That doesn't work. ;o)

    ....with all my other brushes...

    Here's a good example of using the term "brushes" where it should not be used, leaving the reader to guess what you mean.

    Just for practice getting used to the terminology, look at the basic folder and file structure I've provided in my post above and tell me, using the correct terminology, exactly what you refer to in the quoted line above when using the word "brushes".

    .....including a set I had previously installed   from a dvd  from jeremy sutton  called jeremy's faves.. they are all nestled together in the same directory and painter still doesn't see them  I tried  going to the brushes  load menu.. it just shows one selection..  Painter brushes 

    and I loaded it and still no more brushes..  its definitely the full set  I downloaded from the corel site. 

    maybe  I'm destined to never use the splatter brush set. ?

    Nope, you're destined to learn Painter's folder and file structure and the related correct terminology so you'll be able to communicate clearly when asking for help and be able to install custom brush libraries, custom brush categories, or individual custom brush variants downloads however the donor organized them and whatever the download contains.

    It'll help a lot if you try not to use the term "brushes" except where Painter uses it in the folder and file structure, or vague words like "set" (which is not used in the folder and file structure) especially when it's quite possible, much more clear, and accurate to use the specific name for what you currently refer to as "brushes or currently refer to as "set".

    Shown below is the basic Corel Painter X through Painter 11 folder and file structure as it appears in both the Painter application/program folder where the program was installed and in the Painter User folder's > [Workspace Name] folder, starting at the top level with the Brushes folder where all brush library folders must be located so Painter can find them:

    Brushes folder

    • Brush Library folders

      • Brush Category folders and
      • 30 x 30 pixel JPG brush category icon image files with the same names as their associated brush category folders

      •  
        • XML Brush Variant files, and
        • JPG Captured Dab image files with the same names as their associated XML Captured Dab brush variant files (if there any Captured Dab brush variants included).

    Here's how I would install the Extra Painter 11 Brushes.zip, downloaded from the Corel server.

    NOTE: I prefer to install Extra and/or custom brush library, brush category, or individual brush variant downloads into my Painter 11 User folder's > [Workspace Name] > Brushes folder so all of my custom preferences and other custom items are in one location and easy to back up. Then, if I ever need to restore Painter 11 to its installed state or uninstall, then reinstall Painter 11, restoring those custom items is very easy and quick.

    1. Download the Painter_11_Brushes.zip file for Windows into a downloads folder on my external hard drive.

    2. Extract the ZIP file into a new folder with the same name as the Zip file: Painter_11_Brushes.

    3. Open that new folder named Painter_11_Brushes (highlighted in yellow on the screen print below) to see a folder named Brushes (highlighted in orange on the screen print)..

    4. Open the Brushes folder (highlighted in orange) to see 20 brush library folders in the left panel, and the same brush library folders also displayed in the right panel (in both panels, these brush library folders are highlighted in green on the screen print).

     

    5. One by one, copy each of the 20 brush library folders then go to my Painter 11 User folder's > [Workspace Name] > Brushes folder and paste the copied brush library folder, repeating these copy and paste steps until all of the Extra Painter 11 brush library folders are installed in my favorite custom [Workspace Name] > Brushes folder.

    6. Go to Painter 11 and use the Brush Selector menu command, Load Brush Library to load a few of the newly installed  Extra Painter 11 brush libraries, each time one of the brush libraries is loaded, dragging one of its brush category icons onto a Custom Palette. Now, with a single click on one of the Custom Palette's brush category icons, the associated brush library will be loaded instantly.

     

    I need to sign off now without taking more time to check, then edit this post. If you find anything confusing, or find errors, please let me know and I'll do my best to fix them.

     

     

    Jinny

     

     

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  • 07-20-2009 10:45 PM In reply to

    • sirok
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    Re: problems loading brush librarys

    I too am having fits with these brush libraries. I am not new to Painter but new to version 11, MAC OX. Corel does not reply to my emails as do most Big companies leaving us on our own.

    I downloaded them / unzipped them / copied them over to the Brushes folder in their own folder .all XML and jpg files./  made sure that all files were ReadWrite enabled as per the .txt file.

    I try to "import" them , I navigate to them I can see them but they are grayed out and not selectable.  I tried moving them around like inside the "Painter Brushes " folder or remaning the folder etc.. But no matter where I put them I can see them but cannot select them . Thanks anybody ?

  • 07-21-2009 3:17 AM In reply to

    Re: problems loading brush librarys

    Hi sirok,

    Welcome to The PainterFactory!

    Please take time to read my posts above so you'll understand where to place the Extras brush libraries downloaded from the Corel site to use in Painter 11.

     

    Cheers!

     

    Jinny

    In case we haven't welcomed you already, Welcome to The PainterFactory!

    If we have welcomed you, just know we're very happy you're here and hope you're enjoying the site!

    Jinny Brown
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  • 07-21-2009 8:02 PM In reply to

    • sirok
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    Re: problems loading brush librarys

    THanks finally got it I think I was up too late trying too hard and was having a Brain Fart.

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