I'm primarily a photographer and enjoy using Image hose which works fine, BUT not when I try to use it with Auto Clone. I can't seem to have any control over it
SpecsPainter 2016 (15.10.740)Mac OS 10.95Processor 2.66 Ghz intel Core 2 Duo
-no stylus in use, just my mouse.Using autoclone with image hose -can’t control size of nozzle images, it fills the document with images that are scaled from the very small to the quite large. It doesn't matter what nozzle I use, whether mine or the pre-installed nozzles.
I reset Painter to see if that would help (shift key and start up painter), but that didn't help.SettingsBrush Control Panel:Cloning: Stroke Attributes: Size Size=182 minimum size= 100% size jitter= 0% Clone Color Clone type= normal stroke jitter= 0.00
It would be nice to have some control; there's some stuff I'd like to try.
Thanks for you help,
I gave this a try on my copy of 2016, and had a similar experience...but I think it's simply because Image hose doesn't support cloning, as opposed to anything you're doing wrong / or due to any bug with the program.
Image hoses are made to do that--spray out images. And the images that get sprayed will have their own, original color, as opposed to the color of your source image. In addition, some of the image hose brushes have interesting spray patterns, so that is likely why you are seeing a range of sizes and directions. More detail here: product.corel.com/.../wwhelp.htm
Perhaps a different brush may better suit your needs? What kind of look are you trying to achieve? For example, with a bit of work it might be possible to use the nozzle image you like and convert it to a captured dab with some nice randomness, and then set that as a cloner brush that will work with Autoclone.
Bottom line is with the range of brushes in Painter, I'm pretty confident you can get the look you desire, it's just a matter of finding and/or creating an appropriate brush.
It is possible to vary the color of an image hose, so it seems like this should be something that could be done (as to why, I could see all sort of artistic effects from building an image from smaller images to people who use the image hose to create brushes that replicate Photoshop's foreground/background jitter effect.
That said, I can't replicate the problem because Auto Clone is disabled when I pick an Image Hose brush.
Indeed it's possible to vary the color of an image hose using Additional color and grain; however cloning only uses the main color so it will not pick up a clone source. (I did try in case I could help get something going for Will in Painter 2016)
If you want to try Image Hose with Auto Clone::
1. Open a Photo
2. File > Clone (or quick clone if you want the canvas empty)
3. Select an image hose brush, enable clone color for the brush
4. Effects > Esoterica > Auto Clone
And as per what Will is seeing, the images will scatter and not pickup the clone source.
Within the current versions of Painter, I'm hopeful a captured dab with some jitter (as you suggest) will be able to create the look Will is looking for...
Hi, Thanks for all the well-thought out replies. I really don't go looking for trouble and was sure somewhere someone said it could be done, so I decided to google it (should have done that first?) and got this among the results http://www.graphicxtras.com/products/painteraddons.htm. Half-way down the page is an article on using autoclone with image hose. I conferred with the author and he said, he didn't use autoclone much anymore and suggested I might be able to do it with auto painting. So I poked around the app a bit and, that does the trick! Choose "current pattern" as the source. The selected ("loaded"?) image hose nozzle seems to count as that. Thanks for all your help. -Will