I've always noticed people using photoshop seem to have better-looking values than me and recently I figured it out. Years ago like many of you I learned to change the default colour profile to one that allows full black, HOWEVER, I recently noticed that while you can see all the values in the colour picker, wether your pasting in a photo selecting the painter UK background colour or actually painting, if you use a 0-255 value under 20 it will just show as 0, there is no gradient between 0 and 20 so almost 8% of the value range is lost. I've tried every combination of colour profiles, rendering intent etc, but none in corel painter can get values between 0 and 20, it just jumps, If I use the same settings in photoshop its completely fine and has the full value range. I haven't been able to find anyone talking about this but I have this problem on multiple devices and multiple versions so I doubt its just me, but I dont understand how such a fundamental flaw could exist for so long.
This image shows some low values in photoshop on the right copied and pasted into corel painter on the left where immediately the values under 20 are crushed to 0, the same happens when painting or doing anything in painter it's not just an issue with copy/pasting things.
This is the colour profile I was using in both painter and photoshop for this test there are many combinations of rendering intent and colour RGB profile that will get the same result with a few simply like the default simply cutting off the values at 20ish never even getting to pure black 0.
If your monitor is badly calibrated and it crushes low values you wont be able to see these but here is another painter left photoshop right example
This screenshot shows that you can select a value between 0 and 20 and it will show in the colour picker as a value between 0 and 20, it doesnt jump around there, but then if you paint with a value under 20 it just shows as full black 0. I can't paint like this, it's such a critical error there are whole genres of painting that are made redundant by loosing out on the lower 7.8% of values, if anyone has any info on this that would be amazing, thank you.
Edit, This is normal SRGB on top and SRGB sealed on bottom, as you can see sealed makes it look at bit better but thats just by changing how values above 20 are shown, it still doesnt show any values between 0 and 20. But do remember. Also, not that when you paint with values between 20 and 0, although they all show as a value of 0, when using the colour picker you can see that the information is still there it will say the value is anywhere between 0 and 20 accurately, however again, its always shows on the monitor as 0, (this isnt a problem with my monitor btw).
Also here is an example of how it splits drags values under 20 to 0 for pictures pasted in resulting in destroying low values in pictures. (left pic painter, right pic original.)
helloI read your report with interest.The image below was created in Photoshop with 0-20 gradient and opened in Painter to compare (PS on top, CP on the bottom)
As a result, the brightness below 20 did not collapse in my environment.Painter seems to have rougher dithering, but I suspect this is simply a display issue.
If you are using Painter 2020 or higher and have high quality zoom mode turned on, try turning it off. The display may be even worse (even at 1x magnification, awful)
I see some compressed blacks if I turn my screen brightness all the way up;
photoshop document: left 1 inch of the space is completely black with some visible artifacts;
painter document: roughly 2.5 inches to the left are pitch black with artifacted gradient coming up from there.
I suspect windows color management system or videocard drivers might affect the way painter renders things;
I don't have crushed blacks or difference between document rendering on mac when comparing painter to clip studio paint or paintstorm.
I also have op's documents opening darker on my set-up compared to a web browser if I save the files and open them through painter, indicating there might be a local color profile embed going on (they're simply tagged as "rgb" when saved.)
this is how a screenshot of what you posted looks for me, could you send the original painter file in case its a problem with some settings I have for the file please? (high quality zoom doesnt change it)
I just messed with my windows colour settings then turned on painter colour proofing mode with SWOP v2, and instantly I got the full value range, after turning colour proofing off it was still good. I tried messing with colour proofing yesterday and this didnt happen, I also turned the windows colour settings back to what I had it at and it didnt go back to crushing the blacks, so I have no idea how I fixed it but I did :/ :)